--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Allen,
>
> Here is a Mach3 Plugin compatable with V4.23 that:
>
> Disallows Jogging while in EStop
> RESET will now immediately halt any motion
> External EStop will now immediately halt any motion
>
> http://www.dynomotion.com/Software/Mach3StopJog/Dynomotion.dll
>
> Please let me know if you find any problems.
>
> Regards
> TK
>
>  
>
>
>

--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Allen,
>
> Here is a Mach3 Plugin compatable with V4.23 that:
>
> Disallows Jogging while in EStop
> RESET will now immediately halt any motion
> External EStop will now immediately halt any motion
>
> http://www.dynomotion.com/Software/Mach3StopJog/Dynomotion.dll
>
> Please let me know if you find any problems.
>
> Regards
> TK
>
>  
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Allen <agray@...>
> To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 12:26:58 PM
> Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: X Axis Fly ...
>
>  
> If you could do that then yes that would be very helpful. Just upgraded a
> stepper system last week and those drives are always enabled so it was possible
> to jog while in estop.
>
> Thanks,
> Allen
>
> --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Allen,
> >
> > Mach3 still sends Jog commands to the plugin while it estop mode.  We could
> > change the plugin to ignore them if in estop.  Would that help?
> >
> > Normally it shouldn't matter because Mach3 disables the amplifiers when in
> >estop
> >
> > anyway. 
> >
> > Regards
> > TK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Allen <agray@>
> > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 9:55:29 AM
> > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: X Axis Fly ...
> >
> >  
> > I have noticed that even though Mach is in "reset mode" (reset flashing) it is
>
> > still possible to jog with the arrow keys when using the kflop. I have been
> > meaning to try a work around that I think will work. My idea is to use a brain
>
> > in mach3 to sense when the reset led is flashing and inhibit all the axis then
>
> > enable the axis when the reset has been cleared (green). Not sure if it would
> > work but the theory is sound :)
> >
> > Allen
> >
> > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Vlad,
> > >
> > > Ouch!
> > >
> > > But I don't think your main problems were related to the amount of
> >buffering. 
> >
> > >
> > > Although maybe Mach3 has an issue with buffering Jog Keys?  What jog mode
> >were
> >
> > >
> > > you in? Step or Velocity?
> > >
> > > But with regard to estop, I think the best approach is to have it hard wired
> >to
> >
> > >
> > > a contactor relay that will kill power to all drives. 
> > >
> > >
> > > The estop input to Mach3 should cause it to turn off all the Drive Enable
> > > Outputs.  Are those wired to your drives?  But all this relies on
> >Windows,
> >
> > >USB
> > >
> > > communication, and KFlop to be responsive.
> > >
> > > Limit Switches should be wired to KFlop and configured in the axis
> > >configuration
> > >
> > > to "Kill Motor Drive".  This will disable the axis which will stop
> >generating
> >
> >
> > > pulses.  This should be instantaneous regardless of the state of Windows,
>
> > > Mach3, USB, or any buffering. 
> > >
> > > Regarding jerky jogging.  There might be an issue where if the Jerk
> >setting is
> >
> > >
> > > so low that it is impossible to reach full acceleration without exceeding max
> >
> > > velocity that the motion blending has problems.  Try increasing the Jerk
> >to
> >
> > >see
> > >
> > > if it works better.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > TK
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: cell.vlad <cell.vlad@>
> > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Fri, March 11, 2011 6:14:25 PM
> > > Subject: [DynoMotion] X Axis Fly ...
> > >
> > >  
> > > Tom,
> > >
> > > Thank you for interesting responses on buffer issue.
> > > I guess, I step in the same hole.
> > >
> > > Just did some machine position adjustment, using JogKeybord arrow for X axis
>
> > > (Ch0), with Mach3. All was just fine when I pressed intermediately, but for
> > >some
> > >
> > > reason I decide to hold little bit longer and Ch0 (X) continue to move in
> > > positive direction infinite...
> > >
> > > I press EMERGENCY button, via Bit1, and since Mach3 was configuration and
> > >tested
> > >
> > > with this, red RESET button on the screen flushing, a.e. was "Emergency Stop
>
> > > Mode" activated in Mach3 and I assume Mach stop to send pulses....
> > > But I saw clearly KFlop did not stop to send pulses, since driver continue to
> >
> > > move Ch0....
> > > So, Limit switch fixture was gone, like a butter spread on the bread my
> > > inductive switch was spread and ball screw was ready to fly out .... I turned
> >
> > > power from the PC and KFlop, and this stop motion.
> > >
> > > I am using KL11078 step driver, and it is another things I will do tomorrow
> > > morning - check why "ENABLE" signal do not stop them. I tested many times, it
> >
> > >is
> > >
> > > normally stop all axis without problems.
> > >
> > > Reading another posts, I think there could not be too much safety precautions
> >
> > > with this beasts... I will think about some additional circuits to prevent
> >such
> >
> > >
> > > "buffer issues"
> > >
> > >
> > > How I can reduce the size of the buffer to make all reasonable working?
> > > Matter the fact, by G-code over Mach3 and from KFlop console, moving pretty
> > > smooth. But Jog by keyboard has some kind Jog-andShortStop-Jog-andShortStop..
> >
> > > for every about 0.1sec for about 5sec Jog...
> > >
> > > This is connected issue?
> > >
> > > My configuration as following:
> > > Mach3/WinXP/USB/KFlop/UmaxSolutionBoard/KL11078/Stepper - 3axis Lagun Mill.
> > > Power to KFlop from 12v/2A, 5v/2A separate power source jointly with PC AC
> >main
> >
> > >
> > > switch.
> > > Drivers and VFD spindle powered via separate main disconnect (was ON all
> > time).
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Vlad
> > >
> >
>

 

Tom,

I get an error when starting Mach3 that the plugin is defective and that it will ignore it. The file size of this plugin is much smaller than the current one.

Allen

--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Allen,
>
> Here is a Mach3 Plugin compatable with V4.23 that:
>
> Disallows Jogging while in EStop
> RESET will now immediately halt any motion
> External EStop will now immediately halt any motion
>
> http://www.dynomotion.com/Software/Mach3StopJog/Dynomotion.dll
>
> Please let me know if you find any problems.
>
> Regards
> TK
>
>  
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Allen <agray@...>
> To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 12:26:58 PM
> Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: X Axis Fly ...
>
>  
> If you could do that then yes that would be very helpful. Just upgraded a
> stepper system last week and those drives are always enabled so it was possible
> to jog while in estop.
>
> Thanks,
> Allen
>
> --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Allen,
> >
> > Mach3 still sends Jog commands to the plugin while it estop mode.  We could
> > change the plugin to ignore them if in estop.  Would that help?
> >
> > Normally it shouldn't matter because Mach3 disables the amplifiers when in
> >estop
> >
> > anyway. 
> >
> > Regards
> > TK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Allen <agray@>
> > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 9:55:29 AM
> > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: X Axis Fly ...
> >
> >  
> > I have noticed that even though Mach is in "reset mode" (reset flashing) it is
>
> > still possible to jog with the arrow keys when using the kflop. I have been
> > meaning to try a work around that I think will work. My idea is to use a brain
>
> > in mach3 to sense when the reset led is flashing and inhibit all the axis then
>
> > enable the axis when the reset has been cleared (green). Not sure if it would
> > work but the theory is sound :)
> >
> > Allen
> >
> > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Vlad,
> > >
> > > Ouch!
> > >
> > > But I don't think your main problems were related to the amount of
> >buffering. 
> >
> > >
> > > Although maybe Mach3 has an issue with buffering Jog Keys?  What jog mode
> >were
> >
> > >
> > > you in? Step or Velocity?
> > >
> > > But with regard to estop, I think the best approach is to have it hard wired
> >to
> >
> > >
> > > a contactor relay that will kill power to all drives. 
> > >
> > >
> > > The estop input to Mach3 should cause it to turn off all the Drive Enable
> > > Outputs.  Are those wired to your drives?  But all this relies on
> >Windows,
> >
> > >USB
> > >
> > > communication, and KFlop to be responsive.
> > >
> > > Limit Switches should be wired to KFlop and configured in the axis
> > >configuration
> > >
> > > to "Kill Motor Drive".  This will disable the axis which will stop
> >generating
> >
> >
> > > pulses.  This should be instantaneous regardless of the state of Windows,
>
> > > Mach3, USB, or any buffering. 
> > >
> > > Regarding jerky jogging.  There might be an issue where if the Jerk
> >setting is
> >
> > >
> > > so low that it is impossible to reach full acceleration without exceeding max
> >
> > > velocity that the motion blending has problems.  Try increasing the Jerk
> >to
> >
> > >see
> > >
> > > if it works better.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > TK
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: cell.vlad <cell.vlad@>
> > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Fri, March 11, 2011 6:14:25 PM
> > > Subject: [DynoMotion] X Axis Fly ...
> > >
> > >  
> > > Tom,
> > >
> > > Thank you for interesting responses on buffer issue.
> > > I guess, I step in the same hole.
> > >
> > > Just did some machine position adjustment, using JogKeybord arrow for X axis
>
> > > (Ch0), with Mach3. All was just fine when I pressed intermediately, but for
> > >some
> > >
> > > reason I decide to hold little bit longer and Ch0 (X) continue to move in
> > > positive direction infinite...
> > >
> > > I press EMERGENCY button, via Bit1, and since Mach3 was configuration and
> > >tested
> > >
> > > with this, red RESET button on the screen flushing, a.e. was "Emergency Stop
>
> > > Mode" activated in Mach3 and I assume Mach stop to send pulses....
> > > But I saw clearly KFlop did not stop to send pulses, since driver continue to
> >
> > > move Ch0....
> > > So, Limit switch fixture was gone, like a butter spread on the bread my
> > > inductive switch was spread and ball screw was ready to fly out .... I turned
> >
> > > power from the PC and KFlop, and this stop motion.
> > >
> > > I am using KL11078 step driver, and it is another things I will do tomorrow
> > > morning - check why "ENABLE" signal do not stop them. I tested many times, it
> >
> > >is
> > >
> > > normally stop all axis without problems.
> > >
> > > Reading another posts, I think there could not be too much safety precautions
> >
> > > with this beasts... I will think about some additional circuits to prevent
> >such
> >
> > >
> > > "buffer issues"
> > >
> > >
> > > How I can reduce the size of the buffer to make all reasonable working?
> > > Matter the fact, by G-code over Mach3 and from KFlop console, moving pretty
> > > smooth. But Jog by keyboard has some kind Jog-andShortStop-Jog-andShortStop..
> >
> > > for every about 0.1sec for about 5sec Jog...
> > >
> > > This is connected issue?
> > >
> > > My configuration as following:
> > > Mach3/WinXP/USB/KFlop/UmaxSolutionBoard/KL11078/Stepper - 3axis Lagun Mill.
> > > Power to KFlop from 12v/2A, 5v/2A separate power source jointly with PC AC
> >main
> >
> > >
> > > switch.
> > > Drivers and VFD spindle powered via separate main disconnect (was ON all
> > time).
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Vlad
> > >
> >
>

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--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, "cell.vlad" <cell.vlad@...> wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
> Thank you for interesting responses on buffer issue.
> I guess, I step in the same hole.
>
> Just did some machine position adjustment, using JogKeybord arrow for X axis (Ch0), with Mach3. All was just fine when I pressed intermediately, but for some reason I decide to hold little bit longer and Ch0 (X) continue to move in positive direction infinite...
> I press EMERGENCY button, via Bit1, and since Mach3 was configuration and tested with this, red RESET button on the screen flushing, a.e. was "Emergency Stop Mode" activated in Mach3 and I assume Mach stop to send pulses....
> But I saw clearly KFlop did not stop to send pulses, since driver continue to move Ch0....
> So, Limit switch fixture was gone, like a butter spread on the bread my inductive switch was spread and ball screw was ready to fly out .... I turned power from the PC and KFlop, and this stop motion.
>
> I am using KL11078 step driver, and it is another things I will do tomorrow morning - check why "ENABLE" signal do not stop them. I tested many times, it is normally stop all axis without problems.
>
> Reading another posts, I think there could not be too much safety precautions with this beasts... I will think about some additional circuits to prevent such "buffer issues"
>
> How I can reduce the size of the buffer to make all reasonable working?
> Matter the fact, by G-code over Mach3 and from KFlop console, moving pretty smooth. But Jog by keyboard has some kind Jog-andShortStop-Jog-andShortStop.. for every about 0.1sec for about 5sec Jog...
> This is connected issue?
>
> My configuration as following:
> Mach3/WinXP/USB/KFlop/UmaxSolutionBoard/KL11078/Stepper - 3axis Lagun Mill.
> Power to KFlop from 12v/2A, 5v/2A separate power source jointly with PC AC main switch.
> Drivers and VFD spindle powered via separate main disconnect (was ON all time).
>
> Thanks,
> Vlad
>

--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Vlad Ole <cell.vlad@...> wrote:
>
> Allen, download again. It is working for me.
> Vlad
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:33 AM, "Allen" <agray@...> wrote:
>
> > Tom,
> >
> > I get an error when starting Mach3 that the plugin is defective and
> > that it will ignore it. The file size of this plugin is much smaller
> > than the current one.
> >
> > Allen
> >
> > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Allen,
> > >
> > > Here is a Mach3 Plugin compatable with V4.23 that:
> > >
> > > Disallows Jogging while in EStop
> > > RESET will now immediately halt any motion
> > > External EStop will now immediately halt any motion
> > >
> > > http://www.dynomotion.com/Software/Mach3StopJog/Dynomotion.dll
> > >
> > > Please let me know if you find any problems.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > TK
> > >
> > > Â
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Allen <agray@>
> > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 12:26:58 PM
> > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: X Axis Fly ...
> > >
> > > Â
> > > If you could do that then yes that would be very helpful. Just
> > upgraded a
> > > stepper system last week and those drives are always enabled so it
> > was possible
> > > to jog while in estop.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Allen
> > >
> > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Allen,
> > > >
> > > > Mach3 still sends Jog commands to the plugin while it estop mode
> > . We could
> > > > change the plugin to ignore them if in estop. Would that
> > help?
> > > >
> > > > Normally it shouldn't matter because Mach3 disables the
> > amplifiers when in
> > > >estop
> > > >
> > > > anyway.ÂÂ
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > TK
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: Allen <agray@>
> > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 9:55:29 AM
> > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: X Axis Fly ...
> > > >
> > > > ÂÂ
> > > > I have noticed that even though Mach is in "reset mode" (reset
> > flashing) it is
> > >
> > > > still possible to jog with the arrow keys when using the kflop.
> > I have been
> > > > meaning to try a work around that I think will work. My idea is
> > to use a brain
> > >
> > > > in mach3 to sense when the reset led is flashing and inhibit all
> > the axis then
> > >
> > > > enable the axis when the reset has been cleared (green). Not
> > sure if it would
> > > > work but the theory is sound :)
> > > >
> > > > Allen
> > > >
> > > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Vlad,
> > > > >
> > > > > Ouch!
> > > > >
> > > > > But I don't think your main problems were related to the
> > amount of
> > > >buffering.ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Although maybe Mach3 has an issue with buffering Jog Keys?ÃÆ'â
> > €šÃ‚ What jog mode
> > > >were
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > you in? Step or Velocity?
> > > > >
> > > > > But with regard to estop, I think the best approach is to have
> > it hard wired
> > > >to
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > a contactor relay that will kill power to all drives.ÃÆ'â
> > €šÃ‚Â
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The estop input to Mach3 should cause it to turn off all the
> > Drive Enable
> > > > > Outputs.ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ Are those wired to your drives?
> > ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ But all this relies on
> > > >Windows,
> > > >
> > > > >USB
> > > > >
> > > > > communication, and KFlopÃÆ'‚ÂÂ to be responsive.
> > > > >
> > > > > Limit Switches should be wired to KFlop and configured in the
> > axis
> > > > >configuration
> > > > >
> > > > > to "Kill Motor Drive".ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ This will disable the
> > axis which will stop
> > > >generating
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > pulses.ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ This should be instantaneous
> > regardless of the state of Windows,
> > >
> > > > > Mach3,ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ USB, or any buffering.ÃÆ'‚Ã
> > ‚Â
> > > > >
> > > > > Regarding jerky jogging.ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ There might be an
> > issue where if the Jerk
> > > >setting is
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > so low that it is impossible to reach full acceleration
> > without exceeding max
> > > >
> > > > > velocity that the motion blending has problems.ÃÆ'â
> > €šÃ‚ Try increasing the Jerk
> > > >to
> > > >
> > > > >see
> > > > >
> > > > > if it works better.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > TK
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: cell.vlad <cell.vlad@>
> > > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Fri, March 11, 2011 6:14:25 PM
> > > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] X Axis Fly ...
> > > > >
> > > > > ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
> > > > > Tom,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you for interesting responses on buffer issue.
> > > > > I guess, I step in the same hole.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just did some machine position adjustment, using JogKeybord
> > arrow for X axis
> > >
> > > > > (Ch0), with Mach3. All was just fine when I pressed
> > intermediately, but for
> > > > >some
> > > > >
> > > > > reason I decide to hold little bit longer and Ch0 (X) continue
> > to move in
> > > > > positive direction infinite...
> > > > >
> > > > > I press EMERGENCY button, via Bit1, and since Mach3 was
> > configuration and
> > > > >tested
> > > > >
> > > > > with this, red RESET button on the screen flushing, a.e. was
> > "Emergency Stop
> > >
> > > > > Mode" activated in Mach3 and I assume Mach stop to send
> > pulses....
> > > > > But I saw clearly KFlop did not stop to send pulses, since
> > driver continue to
> > > >
> > > > > move Ch0....
> > > > > So, Limit switch fixture was gone, like a butter spread on the
> > bread my
> > > > > inductive switch was spread and ball screw was ready to fly
> > out .... I turned
> > > >
> > > > > power from the PC and KFlop, and this stop motion.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am using KL11078 step driver, and it is another things I
> > will do tomorrow
> > > > > morning - check why "ENABLE" signal do not stop them. I tested
> > many times, it
> > > >
> > > > >is
> > > > >
> > > > > normally stop all axis without problems.
> > > > >
> > > > > Reading another posts, I think there could not be too much
> > safety precautions
> > > >
> > > > > with this beasts... I will think about some additional
> > circuits to prevent
> > > >such
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "buffer issues"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > How I can reduce the size of the buffer to make all reasonable
> > working?
> > > > > Matter the fact, by G-code over Mach3 and from KFlop console,
> > moving pretty
> > > > > smooth. But Jog by keyboard has some kind Jog-andShortStop-Jog-
> > andShortStop..
> > > >
> > > > > for every about 0.1sec for about 5sec Jog...
> > > > >
> > > > > This is connected issue?
> > > > >
> > > > > My configuration as following:
> > > > > Mach3/WinXP/USB/KFlop/UmaxSolutionBoard/KL11078/Stepper -
> > 3axis Lagun Mill.
> > > > > Power to KFlop from 12v/2A, 5v/2A separate power source
> > jointly with PC AC
> > > >main
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > switch.
> > > > > Drivers and VFD spindle powered via separate main disconnect
> > (was ON all
> > > > time).
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Vlad
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
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